Din Torah Cancelled
"It has been the talk of town for a week, six Shomrim facing jail time for a brawl in which Jews pressed charges against them" states on Crown Heights website. In truth however, the Bochurim received explicit permission to file charges from both Rabbi Shwei and Rabbi Osdoba respectively.

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מערכת חב"ד אינפו
16 Cheshvan 5770 (03.11.2009)
Only after the Shomrim members pleaded with Rabbis Avrohom Osdoba, Shlomo Yehuda Segal, and Yitzchok Raitport did they issue a summons for a Din Torah for all parties involved in the law suit against six Shomrim members accused of mercilessly beating bochurim residing in the dormitory at 749 Eastern Parkway, after being called to settle a dispute over a dormitory bed.

Upon receiving the summons to the Din Torah, the Bochurim involved arrived at Rabbi Osdoba's Beis Din exactly as the summons had stated, at nine in the evening. However, upon arrival the bochurim found the doors locked and lights shut, and after some quick phone calls they were informed that the Din Torah had been cancelled "after reexamining the situation, the Rabbonim decided there is no case for a Din Torah" someone close to the defence informed them.
 
Chabad.info has asked numerous individuals involved in this court case regarding their permission to approach the authorities, and the fact is that the Bochurim received explicit permission from both Rabbonim. And anyone who claims otherwise is simply spreading libelous slander.





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1.

I SAW A LETTER FROM RABBI MARLOW OLOV HASHOLOM AND HE SAID YOU ARE PERMITTED TO CALL THE POLICE ON THESE THUGS BECAUSE OF THEIR DESECRATION TO OUR COMMUNITY THESE HERSHKOPS ARE A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE SCUM BAGS THEY SPIT ON THE RABONIM CURSE THEM THAN THEY RUN TO THEM AND THAN THEY HAVE A NERVE TO PUBLISIZE FALSE INFORMATION ABOUT THE RABONIM WITHOUT PERMISSION


2. the truth box
antimesira
this is a lie and documents will be shown to prove this. keep writing lies and the truth will come out.


3.

how come it always "someone" anf never detail. How come theres always rabbonim, but no names


4.
documents
does chabad.info have any singed letter to prove your claims. The Rabbis are still alive (not the one that comment one is talking about), why not ask them to confirm on paper?


5. Shut down Bais Din
Machne
To Number 1. Now we can shut down all Bais Din, because there was a Letter you saw many years ago. We dont need any Din Torahs, now everybody can go to court without permission, becuase there is a letter from Rabbi Marlow from many years ago. Lets just shut it all down. Another Thing: Whatever happened to that "Bais Din" that came out with that "letter"?


6.
show me
show the letter, why say you saw it, show us all.


7.

how does a letter from many years ago give permission now. did they ask Rabbi Marlow obm also this time?


8.
Dov
I think we should hire guards for Rabbi Osdoba, because starting with the thug of gang members Hershkop and his thugs can mean revenge, as they are likely to do. On the other hand, I salute Rabbi Osdoba, fir standing up to the truth, FINALLY. I hope that this is the first of other truth;s that he will stand up to.


9. shomrim
crownheightser
SINCE WHEN IS IT OKAY FOR SHOMRIM TO BEAT UP BOCHURIM? IF THAT IS THEIR METHOD OF PROTECTION THEN IT SHOULD BE PERFECTLY OK TO BE TAKEN TO TASK FOR IT. THIS IS NOT NAZI GERMANY WHERE JEWS HAD TO FIGHT JEWS TO STAY ALIVE!!!


10.

To Lifshitz & Shomrim - Remeber how everything we say and do is being monitored. Hashem is an enormous video camera. Everything is being seen and heard! Remeber the Mishna, "Reflect upon three things and you will not come to sin: Know what is above you - an Eye that sees, an Ear that hears and all your deeds are recorded in a Book.


11. what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander...

I saw many comments on the famous anti-website that is connected with shomrim, etc. and rabid anti-moshiachistim. and they are saying that moshiachistim are R"L CH"V not yidden, and as such should be dealt with as goyim R"L. Why, if they are koifer in moshiach and outwardly - without shame, deny the holy words of the Rebbe MH"M Shlita are they deserving of ahavas yisroel and rachmones? Please explain how and why they are different from korach? Why did korach deserve to die? Was he not a jew - and thus entitled to ahavas yisroel and rachmones?


12. what
what
stop all the... T.O.D. IS THE REAL WAY TO GO EVERYONE SHOULD JUST BEAT UP THE OTHER WHY DO WE REALLY NEED 770 MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO THE ARABS THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE MORE ACHDUS


13. Arabs
Yosy
The shomrim are WORSE than ARABS!!


14. Shomrim
Yoely
The Arabs are worse than SHOMRIM!!


15. Goyishe Courts
Now it's a problem?!
Why did it become a problem to go to a goyishe court - when krinsky & co. had no problem to take the gaboim and the three bochurim with the stone to a goyishe court?! Why is only OK for krinsky to go to a goyishe court and not anyone else? Why is not mesira for him to prosecute the three bocurim for a rock, and here, when bochurim almost got R"L killed - it's called mesira and it's ossur?! Why didn't he go to a bais din first?


16.

are u normanl?? i dont know the whole story but lets not forget we are talking abt Jews here and theres no way u can possibly compare them to arabs unless u are just......


17. KEFIRA
QUESTIONS
1. - If, according to the Rambam & shulchan aruch - someone who denies moshiach is considered a koifer and it's as if he/she denies the whole torah (ie-a mishumod) why is that person entitled to achdus, ahavas yisroel, rachmones, etc. etc.? 2. - What exactly makes a person a "chossid"? How could someone be called a "Lubavitcher chossid" if he/she does not believe in the Rebbe? Please reference where in shulchan aruch does it say that a koifer is deserving of ahavas yisroel notwithstanding the fact that he/she denies the very concept of moshiach, the torah, nevi'im & hashem himself?